[外絮] 交易大限前的拓荒者

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前言:篇幅長,所以我沒有全篇翻,挑重點整理 來源:The rose garden report (Sean Highkin 拓荒者隊伍記者) 網址:https://reurl.cc/GXMrLd https://reurl.cc/LX9drK (拓荒者球迷信箱答疑) https://i.imgur.com/pcoo4Wo.jpg
We're in the middle of my least favorite week of the NBA calendar. 我們正處在NBA日程中我最不喜歡的一週當中 There are no trades yet—just a lot of waiting and a lot of rumors. And with that comes a lot of stress for everyone. For those of us on the media side, it's trying to chase this stuff and figure out which whispers we hear are real and which ones are posturing. For you, the fan, it's spending hours killing time on the Trade Machine wondering why your team's GM won't just do something already. For the GMs themselves, there are a lot of moving parts to juggle—multiple talks about the same players with different teams, figuring out what works under the salary cap, mitigating leaks and leverage plays. 目前尚未有交易案發生,只能在滿滿的乳摸中等待。山雨欲來風滿樓,對於我們這群 記者來說,一直在試圖確認這些留言是否真實,抑或只是來帶帶風向。但對球迷而言, 只是玩玩Trade Machine來殺時間並質疑總管怎麼還沒開始動作。可總管的層面有 需多細節需要處理,沙盤推演同一位球員在不同球隊的狀況,包含薪資空間的利用、 降低見光死的風險及後續的蝴蝶效應 It's even worse for players. Even the guys that swear they don't read social media or pay attention to this stuff are lying. Everyone in every locker room sees the same rumors you see and knows who's on the block, even if they don't talk about it in the open. They hear you screaming online to trade them. Some are affected by it, some are not. The players who know they're being traded know that means they're going to have to move their families to a new city on short notice. You can make the argument that NBA players get paid a lot of money to deal with these headaches, but that doesn't mean they're not real. 對球員的影響更糟,甚至是那群發誓不關注社交媒體或這些流言的人只是在說謊罷了, 每一位在更衣室的球員都會跟你各位看見相同的乳摸,且更清楚知道誰在檯面上, 即使他們不會公開談論這些。當球迷在網路大喊交易時,有些球員會受影響,有些不會。 球員當被告知交易時,不得不短時間準備好帶著家人搬到新城市,你確實可以說NBA球員 賺這麼多錢本來就該面對這些,但這就是實際發生在球員身上的事 It makes everyone in the building on-edge, especially within teams in situations like Portland's, where losses have piled up lately and everybody knows changes are coming. Even Damian Lillard, the most even-keeled player I've ever covered, snapped at a reporter a couple weeks ago for asking a question about the trade deadline after a bad loss to the Lakers, and he's the only guy on this team that knows he's not getting traded. Everyone's feeling it, and everyone would rather it be in the rear view. 這使得每個人都處於風口浪尖,尤其是像波特蘭這樣的球隊,近期的影響逐漸增大, 且每位球員都知道即將有變動。就連Dame也一樣,在我採訪生涯中最冷靜的球員, 也在幾週前輸給湖人的比賽後,對一名提問關於交易大限的記者發火,他也是隊伍 唯一一名不會被交易的球員。每位球員都能感受到這股氛圍,也希望能在未來藍圖內。 The Blazers are in a very different spot now than they were a year ago. In February of 2022, they had already made the decision to shut Lillard down for a core muscle surgery and pivot the rest of that season towards what they called "player development," which really just meant losing a lot of games to get a high draft pick. Everyone knew C.J. McCollum was being shopped, along with other high-priced veterans like Norman Powell and Robert Covington who weren't going to be part of the long-term plan and didn't click with first-year head coach Chauncey Billups. The organization was still picking up the pieces from last winter's investigation and eventual firing of president of basketball operations Neil Olshey, and it wasn't clear how much authority Cronin would have to make a major trade as an interim GM still trying to earn the permanent job. 拓荒者目前的狀況跟一年前大不相同。2022年2月,決定把小李關機進行核心肌肉手術, 並在剩餘賽程開展所謂的"球員發展"計畫,其實就是開坦高順位選秀籤。每個人都清楚 CJ擺在貨架上,包含高價值的老將,像是砲哥及RoCo,他們不被放在球隊的未來藍圖, 且跟第一年的總教練槍西不合。球團也正在處理2021冬天的調查,並開除了前總管奧總, 而剛上任的臨時總管克總也還不清楚有多少權力去處理重大交易,且在努力爭取正式的 總管身分。 Now comes the hard part: taking a roster with some things to like but a long, long way to go to become elite, and reshaping it again into whatever the contending version of the final years of Lillard's prime will look like. 現在是困難的階段:構建球隊陣容,目前要成為勁旅還有很長很長的路要走,如何在小李 最後的幾年巔峰期去重組名單。 --------------以下是球迷信箱答疑--------- "Do you think the Blazers' recent play this season will affect Jerami Grant's willingness to re-sign with Portland this year? And more importantly, if Grant and his team force Cronin to wait until unrestricted free agency—when they're competing against Memphis and 'maybe' Los Angeles, will he be worth paying $120-$160M in salary over 4-5 years? Would that turn the Blazers into, as Hollinger describes them, "Wizards West?" 「你認為拓荒者近期的表現是否會影響Grant的續約意願?更重要的,要是Grant團隊 迫使克總等到Grant變成非受限自由球員,當拓荒者對決灰熊或洛城雙雄是否值得給他 120-160M/4or5y的合約? 會不會讓拓荒者變成火靈哥描述的那樣"西區巫師隊"?」 I don't think a few bad weeks in January changes anything on either side. The Blazers didn't trade for Grant to let him walk after one season, and Grant from what I know is very happy here. 我不認為1月份幾個糟糕的星期會改變雙方任何事情。拓荒者不會讓Grant打一季就離開, 且就我所知,Grant待得很開心 Grant recently told The Athletic that he's unlikely to sign the four-year, $112 million extension he's eligible for right now, which isn't a surprise. Why would he lock himself into a number he's outplayed this season when he'll be able to get more years and more money by waiting six months? It's probably going to be one of those deals that gets "agreed to" at 12:01 on June 30, like Anfernee Simons this past summer, because the Blazers and Grant's representatives will already have a good idea of what makes both sides happy. So I wouldn't expect any drama there. Grant最近告知The Athletic他不太可能簽下112M/4Y的續約合約,這其實不令人意外。 他的賽季表現遠大於這個金額的價值,尤其六個月後能獲得更多錢及更多的合約年, 何必現在接受呢? 但很有可能成為自由市場剛開市就談妥的合約之一,像是去年的賽門 一樣,因為拓荒者球團跟Grant團隊已經有共識什麼能讓雙方都開心,所以我不覺得會有 任何的抓馬發生。 I'd expect the deal he ultimately signs to be somewhere in the range of $30 million per year over four or five years, enough above the $28 million annual salary that would be his max now for him to be able to say he earned a bigger deal, but not so much more that it kills Portland's cap sheet long-term. Grant turns 29 in March; even if he's able to get a fifth year by waiting until the summer to re-sign with Portland, his next contract will take him through his age-34 season. It's not crazy at all to think he'll still be a productive player by then, and the final three years of the deal will be under the much higher salary cap that's expected to come when the league's new TV deal kicks in in 2025. 我預計Grant會簽下年均30M的四年或五年合約,足以超過他目前的最高年薪28M,他會獲 得更高的薪水,但並不會卡死拓荒者未來薪資空間,即使暑假有利用鳥權簽下五年合約, 綁定他到34歲。認為他到時仍然是一名有貢獻能力的球員也不太瘋狂,甚至最後三年期間 的薪資帽預期會提高很多,因2025年新電視轉播合約開始生效。 You're going to see the number of $233 million thrown around as the max Grant could sign for this summer, but that's just what he's eligible to get under league rules. It's not going to be close to that. As we see every summer when deals get reported in the opening minutes of the free agency period, teams and players often have handshake agreements already in place. Given the positive things both sides have said about each other here, I'd be shocked if that wasn't the case with Grant and the Blazers. 你會看到Grant可能簽下233M的頂薪,那是他有資格根據聯盟CBA所能爭取到的最大金額。 但不會接近這數字的。當簽約消息在自由市場開市後被報導時,球隊與球員通常已經有 握手協議。根據雙方已經商談過的積極意向,如果拓荒者跟Grant分手我會非常驚訝。 (後續跟巫師的戰文內容我略過,這篇不是用來戰的) "We gotta trade Hart, right? I mean...we just gotta. We won't let him walk, so if we don't trade him, we end up signing him, when we don't really want to...at least that's my guess. SO - who do you see out there? Who makes sense? Would Hart get us Vanderbilt? Do the Bucks make sense for Hart? Ingles? SO - do you think we trade him, and if so, who do you see out there? If you don't think we trade him, do you think we end up signing him? For how much? Thanks! So happy I subscribed. I'll certainly be a long term subscriber. Thanks for your work." 「我們會交易Hart,對吧? 我是說,可能必須交易。我們不會讓Hart變空氣,所以假如 我們不交易他,我們即使不想最終也會續約他,這只是我的猜測。 那你有什麼消息嗎?交易誰合理? Hart for Vanderbilt(Jazz)?公鹿對Hart有興趣嗎? 換Ingles? 如果你覺得拓荒者不會交易Hart,那你認為拓荒者會續約嗎?開多少價碼?」 Nothing is done until it's done, but I'll be very surprised if Hart is still a Blazer at this time next week, for all the reasons you've laid out. Nassir Little has played well enough to start since coming back from his hip injury last month, and re-signing Hart for what his market value will be doesn't make sense financially considering the other money they'll have committed to starters and how far the roster still has to go to be a contender. 交易完成前什麼也做不了,但要是Hart交易大限之後還留在拓荒者,我會非常驚訝, 因為你已經把原因說出來了。Little從臀部傷勢回歸後,表現已經足夠好,且重簽Hart 的市場合理價格對於薪資空間的利用沒有道理,這是因為考量到會給其他先發球員更多 的薪資,且必須把拓荒者的球員名單打造成勁旅。 I don't like to get too deep into hypothetical trade targets because I actually talk to the people involved here, so I'm wary of what I say I think they could get for Hart being misconstrued as reporting that they've actually had those talks, but I will say that Hart easily has the most value of anyone on the roster likely to be moved. He checks all the boxes of being on a good contract and being a valuable and versatile enough player that every team in the league would want him, to where Portland could get something of value for him. That's why I think he's just about certain to be moved. 我不喜歡太過深入的探討交易目標,因為我實際跟拓荒者相關人員聊過,所以我必須 謹慎得把持能透漏的內容,否則很可能讓Hart被誤解報導出來已經有商談交易事宜, 但我可以很肯定Hart是可動名單內最有價值的球員。Hart符合所有條件,良好合約, 有價值且多功能性的球員,聯盟內幾乎所有球隊都會需要他,以至於拓荒者可以取得 不錯的資產回報。這就是我認為Hart幾乎是一定會被交易出去的理由。 "There's been lots of talk of Hart, Nurk & Winslow being available on the trade market. But I'm wondering, of all the other guys not discussed as much, who do you think is the one most likely to be traded that might be a surprise to the fanbase? Watford? GP2? Nas? We've heard Dame and Ant are untouchable, Grant and Shaedon also but little else. Interested to hear your thoughts." 「近期有很多關於Hart、Nurkic和Winslow的乳摸。但我想知道是否有其他沒有太多討論 的球員中,有你認為最有可能被交易的球員,並會讓球迷震驚的? Watford? GP2? Little? 因為我們已經了解小李、賽門是不動產,也包含Sharpe跟Grant,除了他們都有可能。 想聽聽看你的看法。」 The three you named at the top—Hart, Nurkic and Winslow—are the most likely to be gone in a week, and I'd add Keon Johnson to that list, too. Not because the organization doesn't like him—they do—but there just aren't minutes for him in the rotation with so many other guards. He's also a former first-round pick in just his second year in the league, meaning he has two more years after this one on a cheap rookie contract, and has had nice moments when he's gotten on the floor, so other teams might look at him as someone with upside they could take a flier on. 這三位你提到的球員『Hart、Nurkic、Winslow』確實是最有可能在一週後離開的球員, 且我還會加上Keon Johnson到這個名單內,不是因為拓荒者不喜歡Keon,正因為喜歡, 但目前球隊有太多的後衛,導致Keon沒辦法獲得上場時間。他是首輪新秀且才打第二年, 且還有兩年的便宜新秀合約,場上有很不錯的高光表現,所以其他隊伍有可能評估他還有 上升空間,並願意賭他的潛力 I would also push back on there being that many "untouchable" players on the roster. I don't think anyone not named Damian Lillard is flat-out off limits in any kind of trade talks. The three you named, Simons, Grant and Sharpe, are not being shopped and are extremely unlikely to be moved, but I don't think they'd be non-starters in a truly franchise-altering deal, whatever that may be. The previous general manager refused to even listen to any trade offers involving C.J. McCollum for years; I don't get the sense that Cronin has that same non-negotiable stance on anyone outside of Lillard. 其實我對球團有這麼多的"不動產"球員持相反意見,我認為除了小李之外的其他人都有 商談交易的空間,Simons、Grant和Sharpe確實沒有放上貨架,也不太可能會被交易, 但如果有能讓球隊質變的交易商談,他們會是受歡迎的人選,不管那可能是什麼提案。 多年來,前總管一直拒絕聽取任何關於CJ的報價,但我不認為克總對任何球員會有一樣的 態度,除了小李。 -------------- 心得: 中鋒Hart看起來應該是會交易了,他真的很容易讓球迷印象深刻,不論是場上的表現, 還是推特的搞笑,Hart到任何一支球隊應該都會讓球迷喜愛,他真的很棒! 拓荒者傷兵潮還沒結束,Winslow都快回來了,結果最近換Nurkic進去躺,GP2也生病了, 天佑拓荒者,開季至今,球員名單14人沒有完整過,偉災靈氣(嘆) PS.如果內容有誤,板友隨時指正,感謝 --
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1FFelixChiu: 推翻譯 02/05 07:09
2Fgm79227922: 推翻譯 02/05 07:10
3FDPP48: 抓眼球是什麼意思啊 02/05 07:13
4Fjosephpu: 推 02/05 07:14
5Fflyintmtc: 推,辛苦了 02/05 07:14
6Fflyintmtc: 獲得關注 02/05 07:15
7FKerere: 抓眼球是吸引目光 英文直翻用法XD 02/05 07:17
8Fqaz122444: 這隊沒救了,小李當核心就是上限不高,更何況老了 02/05 07:26
9FJusufNurkic: Grant能留住就好 推 02/05 07:29
10Fjosephpu: 不過Hart不都打3號嗎,還是槍西拿他當小球C....? 02/05 07:29
11FCheerWesley: Nurk早就該走了 02/05 07:31
12Fpooroo: 可能是Hart莫名很會抓籃板吧,所以才戲稱他中鋒 02/05 07:35
確實XD 開玩笑為主 不過槍西擺過
13FRUSH2112: 推 02/05 07:36
14Fjosephpu: 原來如此xd 02/05 07:54
15Fymsc30102: 看來要再一次一覺醒來發現隊友都不一樣了嗎 02/05 07:58
16FAnsel: 翻譯推 02/05 08:01
17Fginopun10477: hart要走的話 可惜 02/05 08:02
18Fe8e88: 起床隊友又要全換了嗎? 02/05 08:06
19Fwegblon: qaz 酸民閉嘴吧 小李生涯沒有全明星的另一個副手 02/05 08:12
20Fcloudyst: 小李:春天到了 隊友又要換一波了 02/05 08:13
21Fwegblon: 只要小李帶隊幾乎都有進季後賽 02/05 08:13
22Fattpp: 球場最音的地方挖一下 02/05 08:13
23FOne102bird: 希望Hart可以留下來呀 很有活力可以感染隊友 02/05 08:31
24Flovesinker: Hart Nurkic一定得走一個 不然哪來錢續Grant 02/05 08:36
25FBigcookie2: Nurk該處理掉了 院長等級 02/05 09:00
26Fl998: 很喜歡Hart QQ 02/05 09:03
27Fs310213: Hart很棒吧,處理掉Nurk吧 02/05 09:06
28Fyoutoo: 感謝 f 大翻譯,我很喜歡阿拓與阿拓版的氣氛,即使 02/05 09:15
29Fyoutoo: 跟 Keon 搬家還是會繼續幫阿拓加油的!希望如果 Keo 02/05 09:15
30Fyoutoo: n 有交易可以幫阿拓更上一層樓 02/05 09:15
31Focean0817: 推翻譯 02/05 09:26
32Fyoutoo: Nurk 有實力在但是跟槍西的戰術不合,換地方很好用 02/05 09:37
33Fyoutoo: 的 02/05 09:37
34Fbearbig: 記得Nurk前幾天低位影響力的圖不是最低效的代表 02/05 09:45
沒錯,右下角領頭羊,很大的因素是他太胖了加上放球手感很爛 https://i.imgur.com/6gqMnyk.jpg
※ 編輯: foolishbi ( 臺灣), 02/05/2023 09:52:43
35Fgreedfat: 沒事早點睡起床就都不一樣了喲 02/05 10:08
36Fskylove21: 原來金門王我也會關心我拓 誰沒救還不好說呢ww 02/05 10:20
37FcaLvinyzc: 阿拓加油 02/05 10:22
38Fskylove21: 不希望hart走啊 雖然沒外線但防守很好用 02/05 10:23
39Fskylove21: 真的需要個穩定的內線 Nurk受大傷後就不太穩了 02/05 10:24
40Fskylove21: 不過說真的市場上要好長人真的難 02/05 10:25
41FTVXFQ: 小哥最近表現有好到可以替代Hart? 02/05 11:48
42Fskylove21: little還很raw吧 Hart除了籃板基本上什麼都能來一點 02/05 11:49
43Fskylove21: 完全不覺得hart這個位置阿拓誰能很好取代 02/05 11:50
44Fskylove21: hart這種萬精油很適合阿拓體系 只是進攻較去年萎靡 02/05 11:51
45Fskylove21: 但也是因為小李回歸還有grant吃掉不小進攻球權 02/05 11:52
46FTVXFQ: 我也記得很raw想說內文說到他不錯 02/05 11:53
47Fjoystation: Hart 就三分投射只有32%已經到了會放被投的程度了 02/05 12:14
48Fjoystation: ,不然真的是很好的球員 02/05 12:14
49FSuikaJasper: 推 這個記者講話很實在欸也不亂爆料 02/05 15:41
50FSuikaJasper: 不是能替代hart,但正因為他很好,在主幹不夠強時重 02/05 15:43
51FSuikaJasper: 簽這種就很容易變成熱火小牛那種千萬綠葉戰隊 02/05 15:43
52Fcpu885: 推 02/05 16:58
53Feno03: 推翻譯 這次不會一覺醒來 先發都不見了 02/05 17:10

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