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[情報] Intel明年換新腳位20A製程媲美2nm (2篇)

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時間. (2023-09-22 08:58:58)
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Intel原本計劃於今年的Meteor Lake
亦即首代Core Ultra上更換新的LGA 1851腳位
但因為Intel 4製程不夠給力
Meteor Lake-S桌上型版本最終被取消。

明年,Intel將推出下一代Arrow Lake處理器
預計稱為第2代Core Ultra,製造製程升級為全新的Intel 20A製程
首次進入埃米時代,可以概略地理解為等效於2nm製程。

Arrow Lake處理器終將用上LGA 1851腳位
屆時還會有新的主機板晶片組,若無意外將會是800系列。

外媒拿到了LGA 1851腳位的設計圖,並依此繪製了3D渲染圖。
https://i.imgur.com/Dpgf6ke.png
LGA 1851平台預期會放棄對DDR4記憶體的支援
PCIe 5.0匯流排通道從16條增加至20條
可以滿足一張顯示卡、一顆或多顆SSD的需求。

但是,主機板晶片組仍舊沒有PCIe 5.0
但會把PCIe 4.0通道數翻倍至24條,同時砍掉PCIe 3.0。

https://news.mydrivers.com/1/936/936187.htm
https://i.imgur.com/b7FojiU.png
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#1js0431: 那麼 多少錢才可以買得到呢114.136.19.120 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:01
#2ATand: 多少錢 不是問題 問題是 我沒錢:(60.249.214.43 (Tainan, TW) 09/22 09:03
#3sigma9988: 遙遙領先36.229.3.128 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:04
#4tsungg: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?220.136.208.197 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:04
#5rtow: 現在Intel的經理是不是韓國人?111.83.201.60 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 09:10
#6leo3258: i家單位 數字縮小直接趕超gg42.73.60.59 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 09:14
#7b325019: 做出來再說223.136.220.203 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:15
#8NoneWolf: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?1.200.3.243 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:16
#9kngs555: 大濕會信220.138.45.223 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 09:17
#10vict1: 先有intel 4的桌上型產品再吹吧59.115.131.168 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 09:17
#11gameguy: 聽你在講,祖傳PPT 工藝?39.9.199.216 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 09:18
#12ccps9550217: 看來星空大師今天又有素材了42.77.118.33 (Anshun, TW) 09/22 09:19
#13Fezico: 20A在原本的roadmap是明年沒錯啦,但現在118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 09:22
#14Fezico: 看起來可能性不大。真要上也是移動板,桌118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 09:22
#15Fezico: 面端夢裡有。118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 09:22
#16scott260202: "媲美"就是,“不是”的意思125.228.189.136 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:24
#17tn601374: 等能效比看看36.224.217.195 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:28
#18concord: 宣傳力道媲美 2nm185.213.82.49 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:33
#19CBRRR: 所以之前的主機板不能用了?42.78.175.154 (TW) 09/22 09:34
#20ctes940008: 祖傳 改腳位36.239.219.227 (Tainan, TW) 09/22 09:35
#21SakeruMT: 7nm(10nm的樣子)→2nm(?nm的樣子)36.233.168.178 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 09:36
#22ab566: 從牙膏廠變身為割韭菜幹話廠39.14.1.97 (TW) 09/22 09:36
#23ab566: intel應該有去跟華爲支那拜師學藝膩39.14.1.97 (TW) 09/22 09:38
#24mimicqneb: 什麼時候會到0.5A136.23.34.89 (TW) 09/22 09:40
#25tim32142000: Å36.230.138.199 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 09:43
#26tim32142000: 1Å大約是一個原子的直徑36.230.138.199 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 09:44
#27rgo: 只有設計圖做不出來是要干啥用的啊?223.137.221.222 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:46
#28mainsa: 現在還卡在10nm++++++然後說明年要跳20Å1.200.27.135 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:48
#29oopFoo: https://reurl.cc/a4nGmG ARL用20a證實36.224.217.241 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:48
#30eric13141230: CEO成天接受媒體訪問唬爛畫餅放畫218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:50
#31leviva: 如果比照intel 7 vs tsmc 7nm, 還是有耗111.243.146.73 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 09:50
#32leviva: 電量差距,推測20A相當於台G 3/4奈米111.243.146.73 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 09:50
#33eric13141230: 當專職公關還比較合適218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:50
#34arrenwu: .....98.45.195.96 (Sunnyvale, US) 09/22 09:52
#35eric13141230: 先想辦法準時把EMR GNR生出來吧 整218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:52
#36eric13141230: 天只會畫大餅218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:52
#37spfy: 這個彎道超車變風見還屌111.71.212.173 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:53
#38wylscott: 下一代會再次重振12400榮光嗎?203.75.79.18 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 09:54
#39giancarlo82: i家的媲美跟華為的遙遙領先是同義詞106.107.240.161 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 09:54
#40lai162: 畫了那麼大的餅 到現在我連麵粉都沒看到111.83.225.235 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:55
#41forever9801: Intel 4發表會不是吹爆了 怎麼又不111.71.37.213 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:59
#42forever9801: 給力了111.71.37.213 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 09:59
#43y78999: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?210.64.226.160 (TW) 09/22 10:00
#44Windcws9Z: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?59.127.190.36 (Andong, TW) 09/22 10:04
#45smallreader: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?114.27.19.212 (Tainan, TW) 09/22 10:05
#46zsp9081a: intel:我可以把7nm命名為2nm阿101.10.66.226 (TW) 09/22 10:10
#47meowgy: 如果i家euv機台數夠的話,我就信211.23.129.134 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:11
#48Fezico: 用等效也不對,最多就是電晶體數量能跟N3B118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:12
#49Fezico: 拼。東西沒出來前ipc都用喊的118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:12
#50Fezico: 先把intel4桌上版弄出來再說,intel7也沒118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:13
#51Fezico: 輸蘇媽的GG5nm。踏實地比較實在118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:13
#52SaberMyWifi: 沒料的公司在那邊學三星用名字吃豆腐101.12.114.143 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:15
#53SaberMyWifi: 10nm故意取intel 7想混淆為7nm101.12.114.143 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:15
#54SaberMyWifi: 那下次把實質7nm取個intel 2混淆2nm101.12.114.143 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:16
#55GORDON2037: 這種幹話只有大濕會信而已27.52.72.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:16
#56SaberMyWifi: 這種下賤手法,intel也不是幹不出來101.12.114.143 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:16
#57Gsanz: https://i.imgur.com/ZDQ2C8O.jpg 星空大師59.126.186.120 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 10:17
#58Gsanz: :59.126.186.120 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 10:17
#59PPPGGG: 媲美=達不到122.121.65.194 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 10:24
#60Fezico: 現在製程本來就各自自家自己喊,講晶體密118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:25
#61Fezico: 度太模糊,不如喊喊數字比較好記118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:25
#62b325019: 反正做不出來數字隨便喊223.136.220.203 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:28
#63justice2008: 我信 intel辦不到的話 還有GG114.32.14.43 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:28
#64Fezico: GG看水果店那顆A17,N3看起來也是蠻烙賽的118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 10:30
#65fenix220: 熟悉的i家最對味111.82.122.116 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 10:31
#66ltytw: intel4 的靈壓    消失了?114.33.46.227 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 10:33
#67ghgn: 4都做不出來了 20A做得出來??223.136.1.47 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 10:43
#68mrme945: N3不到烙賽吧 只是沒預期好而已111.71.214.66 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 10:55
#69APlife: 做不做得出來不知道111.242.127.9 (Yunlin, TW) 09/22 10:58
#70APlife: 但腳位改是一定改的111.242.127.9 (Yunlin, TW) 09/22 10:58
#71suitup: 沒人在乎203.73.245.168 (Magong, TW) 09/22 10:58
#72payneblue: 在烙賽 還是市面上最頂的SOC 呵呵 ==218.173.43.189 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 11:07
#73Kismeter: 又在那邊吹了223.138.22.146 (Tainan, TW) 09/22 11:07
#74kuroshizu21: 大濕聽了甚為心喜, 對此深信不疑114.37.181.224 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:10
#75coox: 明年底絕對來不及163.26.206.202 (TW) 09/22 11:14
#76t202202: 祖傳牙膏你敢嘴1.200.2.163 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:16
#77dkchronos: 遙遙領先 遙遙領先111.252.71.222 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 11:17
#78amos30627: 4跳20A是跳過3nm這個節點?101.9.114.26 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 11:23
#79tlight: 媲美2nm 哈哈哈,15cm比較持久就能夠媲美101.10.59.176 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:27
#80tlight: 30cm了嗎?101.10.59.176 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:27
#81suitup: 笑死 還市面上最頂SOC勒 自我安慰也得有個203.73.245.168 (Magong, TW) 09/22 11:28
#82suitup: 限度203.73.245.168 (Magong, TW) 09/22 11:28
#83suitup: 阿還是說AMD現在做chiplet 所以只剩你inte203.73.245.168 (Magong, TW) 09/22 11:28
#84suitup: l在做SOC所以最頂這樣?203.73.245.168 (Magong, TW) 09/22 11:28
#85SHR4587: 三星在製程命名上做文章但台積電也是來220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:30
#86SHR4587: 著……220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:30
#87giancarlo82: 最頂SOC那句是指A17 不是i家的慘品吧106.107.240.161 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 11:31
#88waakye: AMD以前也是幹這種事啊,3000+ 沒有真的3.220.138.127.252 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:34
#89waakye: 0G220.138.127.252 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:34
#90b325019: 只論x86那也是APU能效王者哪輪得到你111.71.34.179 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:36
#91aggressorX: 大家都知道媲美是什麼意思1.162.76.25 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:37
#92roceskate: 想到脚位簽名檔101.10.97.135 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:37
#93z7956234: ”媲美”118.232.222.192 (Neibu, TW) 09/22 11:38
#94lingling0000: ppt裡什麼都有223.137.209.248 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:38
#95ray2000: 遙遙領先 遙遙領先 遙遙領先42.77.238.88 (Neipu, TW) 09/22 11:41
#96luweber88: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?42.76.165.73 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 11:43
#97binco: 直接跳2nm?難不成是外星人黑科技?42.72.95.150 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 11:45
#98ungm: 這幾年都是唉皇在做PPT,有點不習慣223.137.159.255 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 11:45
#99Koogeal: TSMC:嗚喔喔喔!…………….是吼? 真是太101.12.47.2 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 12:05
#100Koogeal: 魔幻了*101.12.47.2 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 12:05
#101n2346879328: 7nm跳2nm你敢信?223.139.37.106 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 12:06
#102ccjj8: 重新定義2nm223.138.81.122 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 12:10
#103skyrain1234: 7nm都生不出來還吹2nm180.217.217.168 (Tainan, TW) 09/22 12:15
#104hangtenboy: 拿到黑科技了,你各位不要不信42.79.174.250 (TW) 09/22 12:15
#105kaj1983: 原來pcie3.0可以砍喔?36.238.162.97 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 12:35
#106kaj1983: 所以本來沒有向下相容這種事囉?36.238.162.97 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 12:35
#107olozil: Intel 4:7nm  Intel 20A:5nm 名字超S趕T211.20.109.119 (Beimen, TW) 09/22 12:36
#108cat05joy: PPT 2Nm嗎211.20.117.1 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 12:37
#109olozil: 不對, 我記得能還一個 Intel 3 怎麼不見了211.20.109.119 (Beimen, TW) 09/22 12:38
#110delaluna: 因為4nm不給力所以改用2nm...???42.72.52.131 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 12:41
#111delaluna: 中芯跟三星彎道翻車的既是感42.72.52.131 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 12:42
#112simba1222: 這個應該是給大GG代了吧1.170.113.219 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 13:03
#113x512319: High-NA 今年底移入,20A明年Q3量產鋪貨223.138.168.150 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 13:06
#114x512319: ,怎麼想都不太可能223.138.168.150 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 13:06
#115qwqqqq: 這種跳法大概是抓到外星人了吧111.240.131.166 (Banqiao, TW) 09/22 13:26
#116saimeitetsu: 不是有給代工嗎?高通老黃看看他們223.137.240.206 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 13:39
#117saimeitetsu: 有沒有興趣223.137.240.206 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 13:39
#118xxxrecoil: “媲美”101.10.8.63 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 13:46
#119olozil: https://i.imgur.com/WvU1EoY.jpg 猜多少211.20.109.119 (Beimen, TW) 09/22 13:50
#120taric888: 又換腳位42.75.174.172 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 13:51
#121q30805q: 夢裡什麼都有 看看今年的產品110.28.88.93 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 14:15
#122changmary: 現在用10nm 等同台積7nm211.72.156.40 (Baifu, TW) 09/22 14:29
#123changmary: 再來20A是7nm 等同台積2nm???211.72.156.40 (Baifu, TW) 09/22 14:29
#124afiend0927: 台積表示,我都還沒上線的東西,你就180.217.209.1 (Baidong, TW) 09/22 14:46
#125afiend0927: 能拿來賣?未來商品是不是、180.217.209.1 (Baidong, TW) 09/22 14:46
#126ehai0725: 媲美的意思代表他不是27.52.100.97 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 14:49
#127Fezico: 乳摸是號稱200啦,雖然感覺蠻唬爛的就是118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 14:49
#128Fezico: intel4當初好像跟intel7差不多都是100上下118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 14:50
#129Fezico: ,20A直接翻倍200的樣子118.168.47.170 (Bao'an, TW) 09/22 14:50
#130js52666: 台積涼了118.170.3.158 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 14:54
#131Lowpapa: 台積完蛋了36.231.73.85 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 14:56
#132Hecc: 遙遙領先 遙遙領先118.231.162.243 (TW) 09/22 14:57
#133leung3740250: 怎麼會有人拿hd library去跟uhp li219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/22 14:59
#134leung3740250: brary比?219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/22 14:59
#135leung3740250: 我不知道10uhd哪來的100219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/22 14:59
#136black8aha: 這次有幾個+220.141.141.113 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 15:00
#137amos30627: 中芯N+2摸的到113喔101.9.114.26 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 15:01
#138tn601374: 重點是密度不是名稱吧36.224.217.195 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:05
#139yiloca: 有2nm的精神111.253.26.74 (Chang-hua, TW) 09/22 15:09
#140tn601374: 而且還改了gaa,不知道會不會跟三星一36.224.217.195 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:10
#141tn601374: 樣烙塞36.224.217.195 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:10
#142b18902040: 身高178號稱190,這種行為不太好118.150.25.128 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:14
#143novicc: 7nm不是都生不出來嗎?1.160.212.75 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:17
#144novicc: 是想用7nm媲美2nm嗎?1.160.212.75 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:18
#145phylen: 是20A製程”名稱”媲美2nm吧125.228.79.8 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 15:24
#146phylen: intel自己給的對比圖125.228.79.8 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 15:24
#147phylen: https://i.imgur.com/YmMsZIr.jpeg125.228.79.8 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 15:24
#148phylen: 再加上最頂規ARL是用TSMC N3的rumo125.228.79.8 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 15:24
#149phylen: r125.228.79.8 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 15:24
#150phylen: 就可以猜intel 20A效能是落在哪125.228.79.8 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/22 15:24
#151kuroshizu21: 只能說希望相隨, 有夢最美114.37.181.224 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:30
#152falcon: 做出來是一回事,實際性能是另一回事27.52.37.136 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:37
#153falcon: 看看那 10nm 都過了幾代才上桌面27.52.37.136 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:37
#154artjio: 主要還是看電晶體密度吧,intel的電晶體密118.163.187.73 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 15:38
#155artjio: 度一直都比台積電跟三星好,就不知道新制118.163.187.73 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 15:38
#156artjio: 程如何了118.163.187.73 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 15:38
#157peatle: 先猜只有筆電61.221.177.187 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 15:42
#158yymeow: 與樓上同感,只有筆電+160.250.130.216 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:51
#159jior: 媲美2nm?尊嘟假嘟118.160.13.215 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 15:52
#160ejywar: TDP 不知道又會暴增多少111.251.5.55 (Zhongli, TW) 09/22 16:06
#161psychic: intel 7 = 10nm製程才是現實吧42.73.128.11 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 16:12
#162roc074: 媲美……42.72.192.171 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 16:22
#163olozil: 中芯之前有梁在,113不意外吧 只是良率....211.20.109.119 (Beimen, TW) 09/22 16:25
#164olozil: 號稱200....那我會猜19多211.20.109.119 (Beimen, TW) 09/22 16:26
#165Allen0315:     牙膏繼續擠......220.141.147.162 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 16:53
#166geesegeese: 笑死,今年intel4還上不了桌面1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:13
#167geesegeese: 5奈米的intel3都上不了,你跟我說要上1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:13
#168geesegeese: 20 A?1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:13
#169geesegeese: intel製程在2024還只有7奈米(台積電41.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:14
#170geesegeese: 奈米)1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:14
#171geesegeese: 最快也要2025才能上5奈米(台積電3奈1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:15
#172geesegeese: 米)1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:15
#173geesegeese: 不過一個節點intel至少會用2年, inte1.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:15
#174geesegeese: l3至少20261.200.151.222 (Daan, TW) 09/22 17:15
#175zx22335566: intel再等一代吧 感覺牙膏還沒擠完111.71.33.126 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:37
#176aegis43210: i皇5nm的電晶體密度就真的和GG的n2差175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:44
#177aegis43210: 不多,尤其是SRAM方面175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:44
#178aegis43210: GG要到N3S成功量產才能追上175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:45
#179aegis43210: GG的n3也是分成一堆節點,20å相當於n175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:47
#180aegis43210: p加上n3s的組合175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:47
#181aegis43210: MTL的uhd庫的密度為120MTr/mm^2,比ZE175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:56
#182aegis43210: N4的90MTr/mm^2強不少175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 17:56
#183luvstarrysky: amd沒有製程優勢就是被i給屌打36.225.179.201 (Keelung, TW) 09/22 18:03
#184ltytw: 剛好 上面一正一負中和在一起看114.33.46.227 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 18:03
#185ltytw: 某A都比某L有料114.33.46.227 (Taichung, TW) 09/22 18:04
#186luvstarrysky: 好了啦 看市佔就知道誰比較厲害36.225.179.201 (Keelung, TW) 09/22 18:05
#187kngs555: 市佔高,財報還是慘不忍睹,股東都快拿114.41.187.176 (Dashe, TW) 09/22 18:31
#188kngs555: 刀架G叔了114.41.187.176 (Dashe, TW) 09/22 18:31
#189saito2190: 媲美?所以不是真的2nm嗎114.137.194.89 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/22 18:57
#190saygogo: 2nm.......1.200.184.175 (Tainan, TW) 09/22 19:56
#191eric13141230: 笑了 I東西都還沒拿出來 就在說GG218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 19:57
#192eric13141230: 要怎樣才能追上218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 19:57
#193aegis43210: 2nm是GG的商業名詞,正式上要用5nm才175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 19:59
#194aegis43210: 對,雖然i皇自己也放棄了,可惜175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 19:59
#195eric13141230: 先把數據中心晶片生出來吧 一直做P218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:01
#196eric13141230: PT畫大餅何必呢218.172.11.147 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:01
#197fywei: 好可憐 陰忑兒怎麼變詐騙集團 zzz220.137.29.208 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:07
#198fywei: 還我當年的英特爾220.137.29.208 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:07
#199sova0809: 唬過頭了218.166.90.71 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 20:59
#200payneblue: 追不追得上都不是重點 重點是他媽的有42.77.57.31 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 21:51
#201payneblue: 沒有廠商要用42.77.57.31 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 21:51
#202payneblue: 三星三奈米也超前台積電量產了 不是超42.77.57.31 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 21:52
#203payneblue: 車了嗎 重點是有廠商要用嗎42.77.57.31 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/22 21:53
#204NanaMizuki: 可是a17 pro的能效看起來也沒進步啊1.171.154.138 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 21:55
#205NanaMizuki: 跟a16沒差多少1.171.154.138 (Taipei, TW) 09/22 21:55
#206olozil: A婆想省錢用N3E...錢省了,當然有副作用www218.161.55.246 (Aikou, TW) 09/22 22:43
#207kkabenson: intel 5nm電晶體密度跟GG2nm差不多笑死122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 22:59
#208kkabenson: 那intel還在GG下貨做什麼122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 22:59
#209kkabenson: 這版怎麼什麼亂吹得都有XDD122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 23:00
#210kkabenson: 2nm都還沒量產 就知道電晶體密度122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 23:00
#211kkabenson: 隨便唬爛個名詞就在那裝專業ZZ122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 23:01
#212kkabenson: intel連7nm能不能高良率量產都存疑122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 23:03
#213kkabenson: 14nm的牙膏擠多久...122.121.167.12 (Pingtung, TW) 09/22 23:04
#214g0428168: 那一位就各種吹阿 拿個網路資料就裝大師125.229.126.53 (TW) 09/22 23:35
#215aqasia: 媲美2nm,是遙遙領先的意思嗎1.200.244.74 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 23:44
#216aegis43210: 在GG下單和電晶體密度有什麼相關性嗎?175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/23 00:09
#217aegis43210: 而且7nm的MTL會於12月上市175.182.113.24 (New Taipei, TW) 09/23 00:09
#218yymeow: 就密度有到但產能不足啊,把一部分周邊晶114.37.3.49 (New Taipei, TW) 09/23 00:37
#219yymeow: 片委託GG幫忙做114.37.3.49 (New Taipei, TW) 09/23 00:37
#220CJhang: 媲美=達不到223.136.94.98 (New Taipei, TW) 09/23 00:56
#221Dissipate: intel 5nm本來就跟GG3~2nm差不多,GG112.64.119.193 (Huangpu, CN) 09/23 02:19
#222Dissipate: 自從16nm以後被被三星帶壞了,幾nm現112.64.119.193 (Huangpu, CN) 09/23 02:19
#223Dissipate: 在都只是行銷名詞112.64.119.193 (Huangpu, CN) 09/23 02:19
#224ck6m454: 難道上面不少都天真的以為GG說幾nm,就真122.121.5.236 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/23 03:25
#225ck6m454: 的是幾nm?122.121.5.236 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/23 03:25
#226kkabenson: 笑死5nm跟GG2nm差不多會在N5下單 合理39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:48
#227kkabenson: 嗎39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:48
#228kkabenson: 本來就差不多數據哪來的 農場文XD?39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:49
#229kkabenson: GG兩奈米還在RD階段 通靈大濕怎知道差39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:50
#230kkabenson: 不多?39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:50
#231kkabenson: 還有 intel 5nm是什麼架構能跟GAA差不39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:51
#232kkabenson: 多 夢到的?39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:51
#233kkabenson: 這年頭雖便東拉西扯就能當半導體大濕39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:52
#234kkabenson:  笑死39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:52
#235kkabenson: 再多google 我看還有什麼能掰的39.9.197.63 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 03:52
#236NanaMizuki: 真的有人不知道台g比牙膏還早把製程1.171.154.138 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 04:05
#237NanaMizuki: 名稱跟實際閘極寬度脫鉤喔1.171.154.138 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 04:05
#238NanaMizuki: 不會吧不會吧1.171.154.138 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 04:05
#239iPhoneX: 擠個2nm的牙膏122.116.56.18 (Baifu, TW) 09/23 06:51
#240ltytw: i皇在GG下單 484指使要故意浪費沙子卡AMD的114.33.46.227 (Taichung, TW) 09/23 07:15
#241ltytw: 單?114.33.46.227 (Taichung, TW) 09/23 07:15
#242ltytw:                 484只是114.33.46.227 (Taichung, TW) 09/23 07:16
#243zx246800tw: 有2nm的精神101.9.238.159 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/23 07:47
#244SHR4587: 講真的牙膏也沒有把製程名稱叫Xnm220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:24
#245kkabenson: 好了啦還在閘極寬度 老早就脫勾不是百39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:29
#246kkabenson: 分百精準微縮39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:29
#247kkabenson: 沒料說一堆都是農場尬味39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:29
#248kkabenson: 我說真的 查一堆五四三的就班門弄斧39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:30
#249SHR4587: 就是因為其他廠都在玩文字遊戲,台積電220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:31
#250SHR4587: 老早就在跟三星一樣玩文字遊戲了,只是沒220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:31
#251SHR4587: 有三星那麼誇張220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:31
#252kkabenson: 是說怎麼冒出這麼多帳號口吻都差不多39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:31
#253kkabenson: 啊 i皇鐵粉這麼多還是顆顆?39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:31
#254SHR4587: 因為這是事實,別人講事實你就說人i粉…220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:32
#255SHR4587: …220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:32
#256SHR4587: intel做不做的出來一回事,但現在大家都220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:33
#257SHR4587: 在玩文字遊戲不是新聞了220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:33
#258kkabenson: 某人說來說去就是那幾個名詞亂湊亂堆39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:33
#259kkabenson: 我N年當半導體學生都比某a大濕懂39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:34
#260SHR4587: intel自己後來也受不了把製程名稱跟寬度220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:34
#261SHR4587: 脫鉤只是跟其他家不一樣不用幾奈米當名220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:34
#262SHR4587: 稱而已220.136.40.17 (Taipei, TW) 09/23 10:34
#263kkabenson: 會以為soc效能只跟Lg有關的 肯定是只會39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:38
#264kkabenson: 查資料的外行仔39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:38
#265kkabenson: 牙膏五奈米跟GG差2nm差不多 然後牙膏39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:41
#266kkabenson: 花錢在GG五奈米下單39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:41
#267kkabenson: 看農場文查資料亂吹就是這樣 一知半解39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:41
#268kkabenson: 是說這種是哪來的自信?遇到業內的人真39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:42
#269kkabenson: 的會搞笑 哈哈39.9.197.22 (Tainan, TW) 09/23 10:42
#270Benefits: 我的屁媲美香水118.231.167.26 (TW) 09/23 11:38
#271glassspirit: 呵呵,這年頭出一張嘴就贏麻了。1.163.160.224 (Xinzhuang, TW) 09/23 18:14
#272leung3740250: 現在的P1278叫20A,要不要去孤狗一218.255.90.54 (Kowloon, HK) 09/23 21:31
#273leung3740250: 下P1276是什麼?218.255.90.54 (Kowloon, HK) 09/23 21:31
#274leung3740250: 然後要不要再順便孤狗一下用N5的是218.255.90.54 (Kowloon, HK) 09/23 21:32
#275leung3740250: 哪個tile?218.255.90.54 (Kowloon, HK) 09/23 21:32
#276leung3740250: 難怪只能當學生218.255.90.54 (Kowloon, HK) 09/23 21:33
#277ck6m454: 那個學生連資料都不會查,看過笑笑就好27.247.167.216 (New Taipei, TW) 09/23 21:37
#278cancelpc: 會改名就是生不出來111.249.174.194 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 00:21
#279kkabenson: N年前當學生代表現在是學生喔 笑122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:33
#280kkabenson: 幾句話就可以看出有沒料  還要查資料XD122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:34
#281kkabenson: 不懂半導體就閉上嘴沒人會笑你122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:35
#282kkabenson: 還冒出一堆帳號在那邊吹口哨壯膽122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:35
#283kkabenson: 不懂的東西 查一堆農場資料在那邊亂吹122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:36
#284kkabenson: 我看N5用哪個TITLE不用查資料你知道嗎122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:37
#285kkabenson: 在那邊搞笑 還查資料XDDDD122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:37
#286kkabenson: 看來不是半導體不懂而已 中文也...恩122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:38
#287kkabenson: 你先回答5NM用啥架構可贏過GAA啦122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:39
#288kkabenson: 沒料找十個帳號壯膽還是沒料 可憐122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:39
#289kkabenson: 再亂吹 看你一次打臉一次^^122.121.178.2 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/24 01:41
#290leung3740250: https://i.imgur.com/7sNFNfu.jpg219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:03
#291leung3740250: 原來官方材料也叫農場內容219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:04
#292leung3740250: Intel 3就是基於Intel 4的東西,所219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:07
#293leung3740250: 以一樣是P1276,所以作為接替者的P219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:07
#294leung3740250: 1278難不成會是6nm或者6.5nm?219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:07
#295leung3740250: 連接詞都能用得一塌糊塗的與其把時219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:14
#296leung3740250: 間浪費在網上討論區,還不如把時間219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:14
#297leung3740250: 花在複習國小國文課本上。219.79.100.173 (Central, HK) 09/24 03:14
#298oooellis: ptt反一,衝進去空intel42.76.241.191 (Taichung, TW) 09/24 11:03
#299kenuser: 這種放話比台灣的候選人還扯114.34.174.99 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 11:43
#300stosto: 我預測一下al那顆全部走gg n3e intel封裝59.115.182.122 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 15:15
#301roseritter: 那就妙了 外人只好等法說 揭露HPC部分111.254.62.53 (Tainan, TW) 09/24 15:17
#302stosto: 另外我夢到gg明年下半年n3e產能全滿了59.115.182.122 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 15:18
#303stosto: 然後也不小心夢到有intel的名字在Roadmap59.115.182.122 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 15:19
#304stosto: 應該很多人都知道intel明年委外的過半啦59.115.182.122 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 15:20
#305stosto: 反正明年上半年n3會比較空,看intel有沒59.115.182.122 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 15:21
#306stosto: 往前拉,不然以規劃應該是第三季才會量產59.115.182.122 (Taipei, TW) 09/24 15:21
#307Windcws9Z: 你的意思是..Intel也懂改產地?59.127.190.36 (Andong, TW) 09/24 20:06
#308glad850: 在非洲,每隔60秒就過了1分鐘175.98.16.243 (Beimen, TW) 09/26 21:47
#309Kaids: 現在幾奈米都是商標而已跟臨界尺寸早脫勾啦174.174.64.168 (US) 09/27 22:08
#310Kaids: 現在GG是領先者所以商標對標GG就隨便說了174.174.64.168 (US) 09/27 22:09

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