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[問題] 志願軍官再入營 (2篇)

看板Militarylife軍旅板作者k8530908 (小象)
時間. (2023-09-18 10:18:51)
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各位大家好

家人是志願役軍官

因為去年營區有人喝酒被查到

剛好那週他輪值星因此就被記點導致考績乙等

今年因為軍官三年內考績未達甲等被退

加上超過30天考績疑慮申訴期

目前已被退伍

想申請再入營也因為考績有「一年」乙等卡關

年紀也34要再走考試招募也不可能

請問還有什麼方法

「並不是三年連乙等」

是前四年都甲等   去年因為這件事導致該年乙等

只吃一次乙等就被退伍

還只是因為別人喝酒   當事人完全沒犯過任何軍紀連菸酒都沒碰過

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補充說明

樓下各位回的確實沒有隱情

家人是位認真努力的人

被記3個申誡就是因為值星沒有查到營內喝酒

家人確實不知道有人準備要喝酒也沒有參與喝酒

喝酒事件是家人值星巡查過後才喝

當初這件事外島營區喝酒酒罐藏天花板有鬧上新聞

記完乙等後 家人過沒多久就剛好要轉調單位(本來就預計要調回本島)

舊單位補點名單沒有他  理由是兵籍資料已經轉出舊單位

到了新單位工作了半年就被人事告知乙等要等退伍了

再努力了半年找申訴管道都卡在三年內不得乙等的規定

所以最近還是被退伍了  也退的很錯愕


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#1geesegeese: 有案底的就別想當兵了,現在沒背景很180.217.159.144 (Bade, TW) 09/18 10:35
#2geesegeese: 難了180.217.159.144 (Bade, TW) 09/18 10:35
#3kax0205: 後備役35歲前軍士官都可重考118.163.187.157 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 11:19
#4jobli: 考績乙非常難達到1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 11:53
#5jobli: 連帶處分不影響留營1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 11:53
#6jobli: 妳要先確定家人有說實話1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 11:54
#7jobli: https://i.imgur.com/CmVxvfa.jpg1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 11:56
#8jobli: 一次大過,累計兩次大過,有期徒刑未緩刑1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 11:58
#9jobli: 怎麼可能連帶處分會記大過1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 11:58
#10Susu1993: 樓上正解,基本上另有隱情吧101.10.46.211 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:00
#11yeng1217: 完全沒拿獎點吃乙也是不容易42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:05
#12k8530908: 就是因為連帶處分 然後剛好又轉單位223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:15
#13k8530908:   所以新舊長官都沒有機會補點回來  所223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:15
#14k8530908: 以覺得很冤枉   確實完全沒參與喝酒  真223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:15
#15k8530908: 的只是那週值星   然後檢查的時候還沒223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:15
#16k8530908: 喝酒  檢查完才喝酒  而且這件事還有鬧223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:15
#17k8530908: 上新聞223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:15
#18k8530908: 新單位的長官也覺得很不可思議   完全認223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:16
#19k8530908: 真做事  竟然這樣就被記點搞到乙等  然223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:16
#20k8530908: 後還沒有幫忙加任何點回來   所以才會退223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:16
#21k8530908: 伍退得很冤枉   就算有申訴   也都被回223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:16
#22k8530908: 因為已過30天申訴期223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:16
#23k8530908: 家人確實真的沒參與喝酒   完全沒隱情223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:17
#24k8530908:    現在很突然的少了經濟來源  完全不223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:17
#25k8530908: 知道還有什麼方法223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:17
#26k8530908: 完全沒犯任何天條223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 12:19
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:25:14
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:27:54
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:29:29
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:30:27
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:31:34
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:32:13
#27jobli: 點數負的也不會打乙,打乙要一次記大過1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:32
#28jobli: 什麼連帶能記大過1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:33
#29jobli: 值星官記大過,當事人不就死刑了1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:34
#30jobli: 就算營內喝酒也不會大過啊1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:34
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:35:22
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 12:36:36
#31kinmen555: 連帶處份性質的會被處份到這種程度嗎?27.242.128.185 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:49
#32yeng1217: 就黑掉只能退伍 別想太多 不是只有這條42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:51
#33yeng1217: 路可以走啦42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:51
#34yeng1217: 至於被記到什麼程度 都過去了 反正再入42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:51
#35yeng1217: 營規定是GG42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 12:51
#36efkfkp: 看起來是得罪人被弄吧?不是前主管就是新114.136.52.35 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:23
#37efkfkp: 主管要弄他,還是放棄吧,回役能被原單位114.136.52.35 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:23
#38efkfkp: 業管做手腳的環節太多114.136.52.35 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:23
#39jobli: 補點不限單位,而且可以註銷前令,重點是當初1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:36
#40jobli: 有一次一大過嗎?1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:36
#41jobli: 三個申誡怎麼打乙1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:37
#42netpal486: 路那麼多條~有需要回去?趁還有智商...61.230.55.151 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/18 13:38
#43netpal486: 快逃~軍官乙等缺點??怎麼調都是同官科~61.230.55.151 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/18 13:39
#44netpal486: 做事不會做人?...61.230.55.151 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/18 13:40
#45jobli: 再入營不可能,但這案可以試試權保會1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:42
#46jobli: 有「莒光甜心」之稱的《莒光園地》當家甜心    1.200.37.217 09/18 13:43
#47jobli: 主播國防部心戰大隊林姓女少校,因介入已婚1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:43
#48jobli: 謝姓男少校婚姻,遭記4大過重懲。對此,林1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:43
#49jobli: 女不服並興訟抗罰,而台北高等行政法院發現1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:44
#50jobli: ,謝男與妻子竟是「假結婚」,認為原處分與1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:44
#51jobli: 事實認定有誤,撤銷林女的2大過。軍方不服1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:44
#52jobli: 上訴,最高法院駁回,林女勝訴。1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:44
#53jobli: 營內打炮都沒事了,部屬喝酒可以申訴看看1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 13:44
#54swilly0906: 我覺得還是要先拔草看一下風向 除非111.71.114.233 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 14:46
#55swilly0906: 原單位長官來本版跟你講的一樣 我在111.71.114.233 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 14:46
#56swilly0906: 給推111.71.114.233 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 14:46
#57k8530908: 也有其他人說過其它人類似的回覆   好223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:08
#58k8530908: 像就是因為鬧上新聞 所以要找個替死鬼223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:08
#59k8530908: 剛好那週輪值星就中了223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:08
#60k8530908: 新單位主官也有說他可以幫忙記點  但是223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:12
#61k8530908: 前單位如果沒補點回來 他幫忙記的點也223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:12
#62k8530908: 不夠223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:12
#63k8530908: 前單位主管當初給的理由是說   他剛當新223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:26
#64k8530908: 任主官加上沒有補點經驗  所以不知道怎223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:26
#65k8530908: 麼補點   這段舊單位主官回覆的訊息也223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:26
#66k8530908: 有給新單位主官看過223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 15:26
#67yeng1217: 不想給理由百百種啦 XD42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:30
#68yeng1217: 少一個排長不方便還是補獎點很難 這個42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:31
#69yeng1217: 用O眼想也知道42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:31
#70jobli: 跟連級主管無關,尉官是營長初審,人評會負點1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:34
#71jobli: 的每年10月前就造冊了1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:34
#72chinnez: 等教召或許有機會36.224.93.103 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:36
#73jobli: 軍官補點是旅級統一配,一般來說c點一定有多1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:36
#74jobli: ,不然用年度b跟a也有1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:36
#75jobli: 不行,軍官不能重考,士官可以1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 15:36
#76yeng1217: 向前走吧 認真做事的話不從軍也能走出42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:32
#77yeng1217: 一條路42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:32
#78yeng1217: 想留你的話上面會想辦法幫你找出路 不42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:34
#79yeng1217: 想留你就是照規定走時間到退伍,你家人42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:34
#80yeng1217: 已經是民人長官給你點尊重的說詞而已42.72.248.78 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:34
#81jobli: 軍官薪水相對外面非常高,退了很難找同等,剛1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:36
#82jobli: 剛我問了一下同學,你這個只能找權保試看看,1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:36
#83jobli: 剛好要立委選舉了,找一下選區立委一起,可能1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:36
#84jobli: 有轉機1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:36
#85yamakazi: 這麼嚴重喔,我當年義務役排長背值星巡1.200.160.127 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:51
#86yamakazi: 寢室看到志願役都在喝酒打麻將,裝作沒1.200.160.127 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:51
#87yamakazi: 看到XD1.200.160.127 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 16:51
#88jobli: 這其實是非常備軍官班的痛苦,常備軍官打炮1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 17:09
#89jobli: 嫖妓簽賭營內喝酒都沒事記大過也沒事,但預1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 17:09
#90jobli: 備役軍官犯小錯可能就不能留營1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 17:09
#91a7610783: 酒駕是天條,不可能再錄取1.175.68.12 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/18 17:59
#92jobli: 樓上根本沒看文吧1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 18:01
#93jobli: 她家人是值星官,當天營內一女戰三男的不是1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 18:02
#94jobli: 她家人1.200.37.217 (New Taipei, TW) 09/18 18:02
#95hsinhanchu: 三年乙等叫做認真努力喔?在這邊說謊111.71.45.152 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 19:07
#96hsinhanchu: 幫不了你的家人啦111.71.45.152 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 19:07
#97victoy0909: 怎樣三年乙等啊,看過11月被記過隔年223.138.170.16 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 19:10
#98victoy0909: 照樣領考績的223.138.170.16 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 19:10
#99k8530908: 不是三年乙等,是前四年都甲等  去年因223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 19:46
#100k8530908: 為營區喝酒被安一個未巡查落實變乙等223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 19:46
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 19:48:20
#101k8530908: 請各位看清楚內文   家人並不是連續三年223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 19:49
#102k8530908: 乙等223.138.143.185 (Taichung, TW) 09/18 19:49
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 19:50:07
#103jobli: 一堆沒看文180.217.240.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/18 19:50
#104GTX960: 又不是他喝酒,真傻眼49.216.89.19 (Taipei, TW) 09/18 19:51
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 19:52:52
※ 編輯: k8530908 (223.138.143.185 臺灣), 09/18/2023 19:53:10
#105jobli: 一堆人沒看文,我看了一下新聞,去年澎湖空軍111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#106jobli: ,一女戰三男在營內喝酒,有人去檢舉,但四長(111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#107jobli: 連,副連,PO,士官長都不管)人家賭爛去高司檢111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#108jobli: 舉,下來查確有其事,然後四個當事人記過111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#109jobli: 1.原PO的家人因為是值星官,督管不嚴被記申111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#110jobli: 誡111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#111jobli: 2.後來又調單位,原單位和新單位都沒有補點111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#112jobli: 3.因為年度獎點不是正一,依法被打乙下111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#113jobli: 4.長官賭爛他把他打乙111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#114jobli: 5.當時不知道會影響留營,而且也沒有馬上退111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#115jobli: 伍,就沒有危機感111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#116jobli: 6.專軍沒學長沒兄弟可以問,結果拿到送達證111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#117jobli: 書就簽了111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#118jobli: 7.時間到了五年期滿要留營時,因三年內有一111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#119jobli: 年不是甲,不能留營111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#120jobli: 8.被逼退伍,又因為是軍官的身份,不能再降考111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#121jobli: 9.因為退前三年有一年不為甲,不準再入營111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#122jobli: 10.原PO上來問太晚了,如果是去年還來的及111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#123jobli: 11.現在只能找權保會了111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#124jobli: 12.原PO家人就是國軍制度中留劣汰優最大的111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#125jobli: 一點,常備役和預備役111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#126jobli: 13.如果是官校畢業或是二次留營轉常備的,不111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#127jobli: 要說背值星,就算自己在營內喝都沒事,判刑也111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#128jobli: 沒事,只要緩刑都能當官,但預備役的,記個申111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#129jobli: 誡可能就不能留營了111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/18 20:48
#130Jimwater: 這應該沒救了,就算申訴成功懲處全註銷39.12.153.34 (TW) 09/18 22:48
#131Jimwater: 一點獎點都沒有考績還是不會變甲吧?39.12.153.34 (TW) 09/18 22:48
#132iceman6107: 我不信 你家人一定沒說實話223.139.200.197 (Tainan, TW) 09/19 07:27
#133iceman6107: 這根本不到打考績乙等的條件223.139.200.197 (Tainan, TW) 09/19 07:29
#134k8530908: 家人說舊單位的新連長(沒幫忙補點那位223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#135k8530908: ),因為討厭舊單位的舊連長,所以這件223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#136k8530908: 事後到了新單位,連同我家人,很多幹部223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#137k8530908: 都常常被記申誡,一群人每天都要加班到3223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#138k8530908: 、4點   我家人因為營組檢還是什麼檢查223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#139k8530908: 的被他最高記過7次申誡,後來也都被更上223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#140k8530908: 面的撤銷,這次喝酒被波及的申誡,其他223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#141k8530908: 一起被記的都有在補點名單內,唯獨家人223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#142ENFIM92Y: 完全沒獎點頂多乙上 會吃到乙跟丙42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 08:42
#143ENFIM92Y: 都不容易42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 08:42
#144k8530908: 沒有,理由就是因為已經要調走了,所以223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#145k8530908: 沒有你的資料沒辦法幫你補點223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:42
#146k8530908: 樓上這位 家人確實有說實話   現在甚至223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:43
#147k8530908: 有考慮要投訴媒體或者提告了  如果沒說223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:43
#148k8530908: 實話不敢投媒體或想走提告吧223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:43
#149ENFIM92Y: 現在體制內剩權保會有機會 其他就42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 08:44
#150ENFIM92Y: 體制外方法了42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 08:44
#151k8530908: 最近在新單位被退伍前  新單位的同事跟223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:49
#152k8530908: 營長看了我同事以前的獎懲內容  也說我223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:49
#153k8530908: 家人狀況太扯  完全沒大錯可以有各種理223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:49
#154k8530908: 由一直記申誡,雖然有7次申誡(跟此事223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:49
#155k8530908: 件無關)沒被記成功,後來有被更上面都223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:49
#156k8530908: 擋下來223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:49
#157k8530908: *看了我家人的獎懲內容223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:50
#158k8530908: 之前的舊連長因為此事也被記小過流放邊223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:51
#159k8530908: 疆  但也沒有被退伍223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:51
#160k8530908: 如果他沒說實話  這半年來不可能到處找223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:59
#161k8530908: 管道要彌補當初沒在30天內未對考績提出223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:59
#162k8530908: 疑慮的這個疏忽    假如沒說實話不會到223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:59
#163k8530908: 處找管道幫忙拼留營機會  何況喝酒也不223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:59
#164k8530908: 是他223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 08:59
#165ENFIM92Y: 在營時都沒人要保你家人了 不是你42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 09:01
#166ENFIM92Y: 的就不要太強求 (煙42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 09:01
#167k8530908: 或許就像其他人講的  家人就是可能因爲223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 09:02
#168k8530908: 舊單位新連長對舊單位的舊連長有不爽的223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 09:02
#169k8530908: 地方  所以底下幹部也都連帶被討厭  我223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 09:02
#170k8530908: 家人又只會默默做事不會能言善道  又剛223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 09:02
#171k8530908: 好遇到大事件  就成了所謂被搞的那位223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 09:02
#172jobli: 他應該是被0點乙上,-點乙180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 11:32
#173jobli: 因為要弄到負點真的很少,通常在旅級都會調180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 11:32
#174jobli: 整180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 11:32
#175ENFIM92Y: 了不起就是功過不相抵 至於1點都沒42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 11:34
#176ENFIM92Y: 給 那就是上面不想鳥你了 是被連帶42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 11:34
#177ENFIM92Y: 處份影響的話通常事後都會補點42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 11:34
#178ENFIM92Y: 了不起被調查時上面直接放大絕說評42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 11:36
#179ENFIM92Y: 議會決議不給點的42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 11:36
#180k8530908: 確實就是像樓上說的   當初那位連長就是223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 12:16
#181k8530908: 說因為沒資料也要調走了  就不知道怎麼223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 12:17
#182k8530908: 幫忙補點 直接被放生223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 12:17
#183jobli: 其實你放錯重點,因為軍官考績不是連長打的,180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 12:20
#184jobli: 最後旅部會統一調整180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 12:20
#185ENFIM92Y: 好奇借問 那像旅部直屬連的話不是42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 12:37
#186ENFIM92Y: 連長打的嗎42.72.236.183 (Taichung, TW) 09/19 12:37
#187FatLemon: 有個問題,沒有一大過不能打乙吧,就算39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:15
#188FatLemon: 獎點負的,是我記錯,還是你家人有其他39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:15
#189FatLemon: 處分沒說39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:15
#190FatLemon: 剛看完另外一棟,原來負的就能打乙,我39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:26
#191FatLemon: 們單位要打乙,人官光製作為什麼要打乙39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:26
#192FatLemon: 的資料都煩到不行,很少出現給乙的,尤39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:26
#193FatLemon: 其是大缺人時代39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 14:26
#194jobli: 打乙要高勤官核定,要發送達證書180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:14
#195jobli: 初評是主官,但尉官都是旅級核,軍官的玩法跟180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:15
#196jobli: 士官兵不太一樣180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:15
#197k8530908: 家人只有什麼點數不到而已 沒有去其他處223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:54
#198k8530908: 分   所以他才很不甘願  他即使知道要被223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:54
#199k8530908: 退了  到退伍前都還在認真準備體測跟什223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:54
#200k8530908: 麼軍官小考之類還有處理每天的公事  沒223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:54
#201k8530908: 有擺爛  很多同事都問說反正都要被退了223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:54
#202k8530908:   幹嘛那麼認真準備體測跟考試223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:54
#203k8530908: 就是像各位說的   只有這樣就被記點然223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:55
#204k8530908: 後變乙   這也是他疑惑跟有點不甘心的地223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:55
#205k8530908: 方223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:55
#206jobli: 不能打乙上以上,不代表不能打乙180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:56
#207k8530908: 他退伍的新單位也跟家人說過類似像樓上223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:57
#208k8530908: 說的   很少給申誡跟乙丙等  幾乎不記人223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:57
#209k8530908:  怎麼他前單位三不五時就一堆人被記223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 15:57
#210jobli: 沒什麼不認命,預備役本來就是衛生紙跟保險180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:57
#211jobli: 套180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:57
#212jobli: 一個用來擦屁股,一個用來辦事後丟掉180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:57
#213jobli: 常備役才是自己人180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 15:58
#214k8530908: 但聽家人說常備役好像要時間到才能轉223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 16:04
#215k8530908:   他年資還不到   所以他其他同事就像223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 16:04
#216k8530908: 其他人說的 不管再怎麼做壞或者擺爛 也223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 16:04
#217k8530908: 都不會有事情223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/19 16:04
#218jobli: 常備役就官校生或是簽兩次的人180.217.230.56 (Hsinchu, TW) 09/19 16:19
#219yesyesyesyes: 你家人應該有隱情,或是被人借題發27.53.232.170 (Taipei, TW) 09/19 18:12
#220yesyesyesyes: 揮了27.53.232.170 (Taipei, TW) 09/19 18:12
#221FatLemon: 假設沒有其他未知的事情,那從頭到尾的39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 20:17
#222FatLemon: 人事單位、一路蓋章的長官都沒有人要救39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 20:17
#223FatLemon: 他,高司單位控管的點數絕對夠補幾隻嘉39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 20:17
#224FatLemon: 獎39.10.9.249 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 20:17
#225jobli: 尉官不會到高司,到軍團級就打死了,但理論上111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 21:05
#226jobli: 以我參加那麼多年人評會來看,沒有看過這種111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 21:05
#227jobli: 非要給他死的玩法111.241.29.22 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/19 21:05
#228ENFIM92Y: 以前專軍的同事第二年被副營長幹爆36.230.155.232 (Taipei, TW) 09/19 21:14
#229ENFIM92Y: ,直接吃乙上,最後還是待到7年上36.230.155.232 (Taipei, TW) 09/19 21:14
#230ENFIM92Y: 尉退了36.230.155.232 (Taipei, TW) 09/19 21:14
#231j00118: 說句實話,家人感受跟職場同事感受絕對兩114.137.211.123 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/20 01:17
#232j00118: 回事114.137.211.123 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/20 01:17
#233jobli: 因為専軍五年,第二年乙上,345三年甲一樣可1.200.57.55 (New Taipei, TW) 09/20 08:23
#234jobli: 以留營1.200.57.55 (New Taipei, TW) 09/20 08:23
#235nosay: 我只能說依軍中尿性 ~ 這個人一定是很黑36.238.124.148 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/21 09:20
#236nosay: 才會沒長官要幫蓋 ~ 以前我學長志願義中士36.238.124.148 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/21 09:21
#237nosay: 也是因為太黑 ~ 中校營長直接說不留了36.238.124.148 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/21 09:23
#238nosay: 上次遇到他 是在加油站當加油員36.238.124.148 (Kaohsiung, TW) 09/21 09:23
#239L9m: 就是黑爆了 不然缺人缺的要死 不會讓你退42.73.251.162 (Taoyuan, TW) 09/21 16:00
#240k8530908: 這幾天因為有寫到部長信箱,家人被很多223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:14
#241k8530908: 同事電話打來關切,甚至連跟那件事情的223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:14
#242k8530908: 相關資料好像都被要求銷毀,各位對裡面223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:14
#243k8530908: 比較熟悉的話,請問這是什麼狀況223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:14
#244k8530908: 好像是兵籍資料要被銷毀的樣子  也不太223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:18
#245k8530908: 清楚223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:18
#246k8530908: 主要是因為一直有各種不同層級的電話打223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:19
#247k8530908: 來關切,不曉得是不是有牴觸到什麼相關223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:20
#248k8530908: 法規, 我們非相關行業的對軍事不熟,223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:20
#249k8530908: 單純只想幫忙問看看還有什麼管道而已,223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:20
#250k8530908: 但不知道會有很多人來關切223.138.135.254 (New Taipei, TW) 09/22 20:20
#251hdotistyle: 太黑了吧180.217.211.51 (Taichung, TW) 09/23 15:53
#252d79418: 不要亂帶風向了啦,現在部隊正到處缺人,114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#253d79418: 尤其是現今還要每週檢討留營率的陸軍,如114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#254d79418: 果爛到部隊都不想救,就不要死活還硬要賴114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#255d79418: 在裡面浪費稅金,被連帶可能真的很衰,但114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#256d79418: 要被弄退就絕不會是只有被別人連帶這件豐114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#257d79418: 功偉業,肯定還有其他劣跡,而且連帶頂多114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#258d79418: 記你一次「申誡兩次」,弄到三次肯定是還114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#259d79418: 有其他帳現在拿出來一起算;反之部隊如果114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#260d79418: 真的想留人,我就看過有人預備役被弄到負114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#261d79418: 26點還硬是被救回來,只能說你家人肯定不114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#262d79418: 是部隊需要的人,讓他出去肯定對部隊對他114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#263d79418: 都好,拜託不要再荼害部隊了,部隊留優汰114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#264d79418: 劣我是真的覺得有必要,寧願缺人,也不要114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39
#265d79418: 濫竽充數留下米蟲幹部來折磨後面官兵114.35.133.206 (Tainan, TW) 10/02 02:39

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